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I think that MongoHQ would prefer to scale out, but they realized that MongoDB was not engineered for it.<\/p>\n<p>It results in a loss of functionality&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In MongoDB, for instance, horizontal scales means losing out on unique secondary indexes (one of the few schema constraints MongoDB currently supports) for a given collection.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It requires difficult decisions&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In MongoDB, this choice is the \u201cshard key decision\u201d that you will hear experienced MongoDB users talk about with undertones of dread.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is complex to configure and maintain&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But once you\u2019ve got your sharded database into production, then there\u2019s the underlying reality that your system has more \u201cmoving parts\u201d in it than might be ideal because more moving parts mean more things can go wrong.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It results in a loss of performance&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In a sharded setup, the network connectivity between the Mongo router, config servers, and each shard influences overall performance.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Couchbase Server, on the other hand, was engineered to scale out. It does not result in a loss of functionality. It does not require difficult decisions. It is not complex to configure and maintain. It does not result in a loss of performance.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Couchbase Server does not require manual configuration of sharding. It is automatic.<\/li>\n<li>Couchbase Server does not have a lot of moving parts. There is one node type.<\/li>\n<li>When Couchbase Server is scaled out, the performance is increased.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I think the section on oplog tailling was rather troublesome. I think it highlights the fact that MongoDB was not engineered to scale out. It turns out that administrators and developers rely on a log file for insight and integration. The problem with MongoDB scaling is that is requires developers to tail multiple log files.\u00a0 There is a log file per node.<\/p>\n<p>Couchbase Server, on the other hand, does not require administrators and developers to tail a log file for insight and integration. 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It is simply a different cluster to replicate data to.<\/p>\n<p>Join the conversation over at reddit (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/mongodb\/comments\/20qoay\/mongodb_and_scale_out_no_says_mongohq\/\">link<\/a>).<br \/>\nJoin the conversation over at Hacker News (<a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=7424209\">link<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Further Reading<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Why We Start Scaling Vertically (Google Web Cache)<\/p>\n<p>Note: MongoHQ as removed the original post and is now redirecting to a new one.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.couchbase.com\/blog\/topology-architecture-distributed-systems\/\">Topology: The Architecture of Distributed Systems<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Note: This includes an overview of the <em>moving parts<\/em> within a MongoDB deployment that is scaled out.<\/p>\n<p>Couchbase Server Elasticsearch Integration (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.couchbase.com\/couchbase-server\/connectors\/elasticsearch\/\">page<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.couchbase.com\/couchbase-elastic-search\/\">doc<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Couchbase Server Apache Hadoop Integration (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.couchbase.com\/couchbase-server\/connectors\/hadoop\/\">page<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/docs.couchbase.com\/hadoop-plugin-1.1\/\">doc<\/a>)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You may have heard that MongoDB has issues with scaling out. 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